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Topic: Smoke Free England
Posted By: tasha
Subject: Smoke Free England
Date Posted: June/06/2007 at 8:10am
From the 31st July 2007, all enclosed public places (clubs, pubs etc) in England will become smoke free. There will be on the spot fines of 50 for breaking this and establishments will be fined 2500. I'm curious to know if any other countries have experienced this and how it effects them.

I'm actually a non-smoker (well, I quit four years ago.) but it gets me wondering who the government will pick on next! (obese people, drinkers, anything that breaths!)






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Posted By: donp
Date Posted: June/06/2007 at 10:01am
that law was passed here starting jan 2007 too. i'm a non smoker and i'm against it, but it sure is nice being able to go out to a bar and not come home smelling like an ash tray.

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Posted By: tasha
Date Posted: June/06/2007 at 10:28am
Originally posted by donp donp wrote:

that law was passed here starting jan 2007 too. i'm a non smoker and i'm against it, but it sure is nice being able to go out to a bar and not come home smelling like an ash tray.


Amen!

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Posted By: pattirose
Date Posted: June/08/2007 at 4:37pm
They passed that here too but are having serious problems with the Native owned lands as they claim they are exempt (Natives pay no tax not even income tax and get free medical and dental plus free tuition on top of their monthly gov't checks) The law also covers the streets in front of public places.
I smoke and I think if they don't want people to smoke stop selling them and enjoying all the taxes they get from them. We pay almost $12.00 a package here.

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Posted By: christophersnow
Date Posted: June/08/2007 at 5:55pm
Taxes in Tennessee are going up! Smoking will be for the rich. Going to school and obtaining a good education will be for everyone!

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Posted By: tasha
Date Posted: June/08/2007 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by pattirose pattirose wrote:

They passed that here too but are having serious problems with the Native owned lands as they claim they are exempt (Natives pay no tax not even income tax and get free medical and dental plus free tuition on top of their monthly gov't checks) The law also covers the streets in front of public places.
I smoke and I think if they don't want people to smoke stop selling them and enjoying all the taxes they get from them. We pay almost $12.00 a package here.


I thought a pack was expensive here (i'm seriously restraining from using the term f**s, as I know we use it for different reasons) my mum now rolls her own "cigarettes", the smoking ban will kill her.

I find it very unfair that Natives get free medical, dental care, tution etc. and don't have to pay taxes. I thought we had it bad in England.


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Posted By: WhiteWolf
Date Posted: June/09/2007 at 3:28am
This law was passed in New York State years ago. A lot of businesses closed because of it at first, but people have gotten used to it since then. Now people complain about having to walk through a cloud of smoke on their way into work becuase the smokers all have to stand outside. Some people are just never happy, even after they get what they want.



Originally posted by christophersnow christophersnow wrote:

Taxes in Tennessee are going up! Smoking will be for the rich. Going to school and obtaining a good education will be for everyone!


Cocaine is for the rich. Other recreational drugs are for the rich. Cigarettes will always be a blue-collar fix. It's the only drug many people can indulge in (legally) on their 15-minute union break. And now middle class America has to bear the tax burden because the Democrats want to punish the tobacco companies by (surprise!) raising industry-specific taxes to teach people a lesson.



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Posted By: masha99
Date Posted: July/19/2007 at 7:41am
Of course they would never stop subsidizing tobacco farmers...

I had this conversation with my husband back when we just got married, and he was a militant anti-smoker. I told him eventually they will come after french fries and such, and he just laughed at me. Well what do you know, a "fat tax" has already been proposed more than once.

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Posted By: tasha
Date Posted: July/19/2007 at 11:43am
The business in the local pubs has slowed down so much! There are more people outdoors than there are in. I can see, as WW said, companies closing down. I was unsure of how the ban would be policed, but apparently you are given 3 strikes, then you are barred from every pub/club in the area (almost like an ASBO)
The funniest thing was that a Liberal Democrat politian was cautioned for smoking on a train!

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Posted By: masha99
Date Posted: July/20/2007 at 2:40am
In the States, they punish the bar owners, not smokers. This way they can collect more fines.
As for the politicians, they never think the laws apply to them anyway. Our governor was in a big car accident where he made his driver speed and he wasn't buckled up.

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